EAGLE WINTER FEEDING GROUND CAMERAS

Morning at the eagle feeding ground:

The firts jay






Food arrives - Tiit Randla brings it

The new food




The jay is back!




The eagle arrives

The fox and the raven!

A woodpecker




More fox pics - the tail looks not so good




The fox is leaving ...

I saw a more beautiful fox already. This animal is ill. :scratch:

Is it the same fox?? The one I saw earlier this morning had mange - not too bad yet but the tail was getting very thin looking in the middle

caysa wrote:Is it the same fox?? The one I saw earlier this morning had mange - not too bad yet but the tail was getting very thin looking in the middle

I believe it same, the tail of the fox does not show on the picture so much sharply only.

poorfox,i know that in all our forest are anti-rabies feeds,but that helps for anti mange?

Nope.... Rabies is a virus and the anti-rabies feeds act as a vaccination against that.

Mange is a mite that lives just under the skin and causes hairloss.
Ivermectin is very efficient to treat this but to administer it to the right animals in the wild is almost impossible. The animal will sooner or later die of cold and hunger ....

AllyKass wrote:poorfox,i know that in all our forest are anti-rabies feeds,but that helps for anti mange?

Actually it´s just the opposite case: Anti-rabies feeds let less foxes die. The population grows. And a high population makes it easier for diseases like mange to spread. Unfortunately...

Since these anti-rabies feeds started also Echinococcus multilocularis (which is very dangerous for humans, dogs and cats) has become very common for the same reason. That´s why I personally do not like these anti-rabies feeds.

Yes, this is right, but for the human safety it has to be done.
What everybody forgets is that The Great Human Beeing should also take care of what follows... = keep the population down by other means. These mange foxes will die, yes but they will spread this disease to many other animals before that happens

About this Echinococcus multilocularis ... It is an intestinal worm and people should REALLY take car of their cats and dogs. Worming should happen at least 4 times per year if you live in an are where it occurs.
In Finland no case has been found so far, and one reason is probably that we have very strict regulations for importing animals. If I take my dogs outside Finland-Sweden-Norway it has to be wormed just before the trip. If I stay longer than 24 hours the worming must be done again before entering Finland.

caysa wrote:Yes, this is right, but for the human safety it has to be done.
What everybody forgets is that The Great Human Beeing should also take care of what follows... = keep the population down by other means. These mange foxes will die, yes but they will spread this disease to many other animals before that happens

That´s also true.

I don´t know exactly how dangerous rabies is (= how many people died if the foxes would get no vacconations) but I know that about 50 people die of Echinococcus multilocularis in Germany each year.

It would be great to live without both diseases and with a healthy fox population...

caysa wrote:About this Echinococcus multilocularis ... It is an intestinal worm and people should REALLY take car of their cats and dogs. Worming should happen at least 4 times per year if you live in an are where it occurs.
In Finland no case has been found so far, and one reason is probably that we have very strict regulations for importing animals. If I take my dogs outside Finland-Sweden-Norway it has to be wormed just before the trip. If I stay longer than 24 hours the worming must be done again before entering Finland.

You are lucky!

In Central Europe about 50% of foxes have Echinococcus multilocularis. In some areas even 80-100%

Ricky wrote:

caysa wrote:About this Echinococcus multilocularis ... It is an intestinal worm and people should REALLY take car of their cats and dogs. Worming should happen at least 4 times per year if you live in an are where it occurs.
In Finland no case has been found so far, and one reason is probably that we have very strict regulations for importing animals. If I take my dogs outside Finland-Sweden-Norway it has to be wormed just before the trip. If I stay longer than 24 hours the worming must be done again before entering Finland.

You are lucky!

In Central Europe about 50% of foxes have Echinococcus multilocularis. In some areas even 80-100%

Yes, I know - it is scary.....
I guess in Finland this is taken serious, as is the rabies.
In 1995 we had the first (known) case of rabies in a wild animal in Finland. It came from Russia. Since then these vaccination bates have been spread along our eastern border line and we have had no rabies in wild animals since 1989. A few dogs and cats have had it, those were all animals brought from Russia.
We have had some human cases, the last one in 1985, a researcher that had been bitten by bats several times somewhere in Africa.
55000 people die every year in Africa and Asia of rabies....
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There is a funny side too.....
In 1995... when this first case occured...every dog and cat and ferret had to be vaccinated, quickly!!
It was crazy. But that was the law!
Ok, we called our vet.... At the time we had 6 dogs + 10 labrador puppies, 4 cats and 1 fox
OMG when we packed all animals up in the car ...
The vet arranged 2 rooms for us and 2 nurses to help write all papers. Animals in through one door and out through another. I will never forget that vet visit

Ricky wrote:
In Central Europe about 50% of foxes have Echinococcus multilocularis. In some areas even 80-100%

Now I realize, of course .... if the foxes are so sick, it is hard to love them

AllyKass wrote:

Ricky wrote:
In Central Europe about 50% of foxes have Echinococcus multilocularis. In some areas even 80-100%

Now I realize, of course .... if the foxes are so sick, it is hard to love them

Ehhmmm, I think you didn´t understand me correctly.... :scratch:
I DO love foxes! That´s also why I wished healthy fox populations...

But of course I have to be very careful with sick foxes otherwise it might get dangerous for me. And that´s another reason why I wished healthy fox populations.

Sadly, I think this is true.....

But we can be happy that we have these cams - this is a secure way to get to know the animals. We can still enjoy the foxes and love them from the bottom of our hearts. It is not the foxes fault that they have these diseases.....

Ricky wrote:

AllyKass wrote:

Ricky wrote:
In Central Europe about 50% of foxes have Echinococcus multilocularis. In some areas even 80-100%

Now I realize, of course .... if the foxes are so sick, it is hard to love them

Ehhmmm, I think you didn´t understand me correctly.... :scratch:
I DO love foxes! That´s also why I wished healthy fox populations...

But of course I have to be very careful with sick foxes otherwise it might get dangerous for me. And that´s another reason why I wished healthy fox populations.

sorry, I do not think you specifically

AllyKass wrote:

Ricky wrote:

AllyKass wrote:

Ricky wrote:
In Central Europe about 50% of foxes have Echinococcus multilocularis. In some areas even 80-100%

Now I realize, of course .... if the foxes are so sick, it is hard to love them

Ehhmmm, I think you didn´t understand me correctly.... :scratch:
I DO love foxes! That´s also why I wished healthy fox populations...

But of course I have to be very careful with sick foxes otherwise it might get dangerous for me. And that´s another reason why I wished healthy fox populations.

sorry, I do not think you specifically

Oh, okay. Sorry that I missunderstood you

Ricky wrote:

AllyKass wrote:

Ricky wrote:

AllyKass wrote:

Ricky wrote:
In Central Europe about 50% of foxes have Echinococcus multilocularis. In some areas even 80-100%

Now I realize, of course .... if the foxes are so sick, it is hard to love them

Ehhmmm, I think you didn´t understand me correctly.... :scratch:
I DO love foxes! That´s also why I wished healthy fox populations...

But of course I have to be very careful with sick foxes otherwise it might get dangerous for me. And that´s another reason why I wished healthy fox populations.

sorry, I do not think you specifically

Oh, okay. Sorry that I missunderstood you

its ok, just I wrote it so indefinite

Darkness is coming quickly - no animals around.
But still very beautiful!!

AllyKass wrote:poorfox,i know that in all our forest are anti-rabies feeds,but that helps for anti mange?

The bathing would help it possibly!

08:25

The jay tries to pilfer some bites.

08:35

Raven with big plunder!

Ophiophagus wrote:

AllyKass wrote:poorfox,i know that in all our forest are anti-rabies feeds,but that helps for anti mange?

The bathing would help it possibly!

Oh, then hunters should be carry quite a lot of small baths and bubble bath with soap and towels out the forest ....

08:57

The arrival of the eagle caused big disturbance between the ravens.

Cool pics Ophy!!!
Thank you!!