Re: ALLY'S DEN

by ergee Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:31 pm

And she got her meal there too?

Such a beautiful animal..that fur, those dots and her big paws, trying to
get her tail..She is wonderful, I really hope there are youngborn amur leopards
tomorrow morning!

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Ct would be 2353 now.

by ergee Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:39 pm

00.35

by ergee Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:36 am

Every moment she chooses another position..nothing is really easy.
1.33 am now. I'm going to another room without pc now! Good night!
Darla, hold on, you can do it!!

by caysa Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:42 am

One baby is born dead ALLY'S DEN - Page 4 608554

But the second one seems ok!

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by AllyKass Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:39 am

hope she get one kitten more, this alive kitten is so dark, like panthera
and poor little one ALLY'S DEN - Page 4 608554

by AllyKass Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:43 am

darla is so satisfied with alive kitten, but what she will do with death one? eat? or could zooworkers get it out someway?

by ergee Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:28 am

Good morning Ally!

The natural way might be to eat the dead kitten, but here???

I would like to read about the new born and when the first
was born aso aso ..but the Zoo does not give any news, or???

Do they have a program where we can read about it??
Or do you know more already??

by ergee Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:50 am

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10.48 am. She seems to be very careful with that little one!

by AllyKass Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:58 am

ergee wrote:Good morning Ally!

The natural way might be to eat the dead kitten, but here???

I would like to read about the new born and when the first
was born aso aso ..but the Zoo does not give any news, or???

Do they have a program where we can read about it??
Or do you know more already??

yes in our newspaper are news and comment from zoo director.he said that first cub born in not right side it was upside down
and they cant nothing to do earlkier then leopard goes out from nest box (but if she goes out they maybe want to take that dead one take off)

http://www.tallinnapostimees.ee/?id=419066

by ergee Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:11 am

Thank you Ally! It is really interesting, all this news and to see
the tiny cat.. Smile

by ergee Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:47 pm

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Darlal left for a moment that "room" and the little one was calling immediately,
impatient and with a loud voice...probably a man!! Darlal came back at once, stood there for a moment and looked at the young with a strange look..as if she was surprised...

Might be possible that Darlal will eat the dead one..she moved it
some times and sniffed on it...
Nature...

by AllyKass Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:54 pm

yes in zoo page they warning people,that darla maybe et this dead one andsaid that they could to nothing because if they go to nest darla may eat even the alive kitten

by AllyKass Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:58 pm

this years kittens are bigger than hasan and hanka was.
they said that hanka borned in wrong position...tail before, too,but she was smaller and then it was not problem like todays "angelkitten"

by ergee Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:38 am

Good morning, how are you today? And what about the high water
in Rakvere and Tartu?? Not at your home I hope!
Did you see news about Darlal? Google does not translate the
commends under the pictures...has there been born a new young
or not? And the dead one is still there I see. Can understand that it
is not possible to move it out without bring the other in danger...
Have a nice day and weekend!

by AllyKass Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:49 pm

ergee wrote:Good morning, how are you today? And what about the high water
in Rakvere and Tartu?? Not at your home I hope!
Did you see news about Darlal? Google does not translate the
commends under the pictures...has there been born a new young
or not? And the dead one is still there I see. Can understand that it
is not possible to move it out without bring the other in danger...
Have a nice day and weekend!

morning! im safe.
darla seems allright,too........but new kittens are not born....yet.and you understand correctly,zoo director said that dead one is not possible to move just now, this may be danger to alive one......we just can look and see that happend,or mati kaal said,this is darlas decision, what she will do. and now she protecting her littleone,its so cute to see

by caysa Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:50 pm

She is a good mom, she knows what this is about now Smile

by ergee Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:23 pm

Beautiful eyes..she seems to have moved her dinner...is getting a
bit old stuff...

by caysa Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:43 pm

I copied our Darla discussion from the owl thread and moved it here. I will delete it in the owl thread. Poor Ophy will get a heart attack otherwise lol!

caysa:
Awwww!!!!
You went to Zoo today???? Did you get any more info about Darla???

Ally:
i saw only freddy to makes circles arround stump and hassan and hanka
but they have news in zoo's hompage
http://loomaaed.ee/index.php?ide=20&shownews=152
and people have seen that darlas belly is moving all wait one kitten more.....maybe its born to night?.

caysa:
It seemes very unlikely that one pup is born so much later after the other ones..... I don't think it will happen.
The movements are probably post contractions, that occur especially when Darla is feeding the baby...

Ally:
zoo direktor said that leopards have two uterus and then the oher cubs may born day or two after first cubs

caysa:
hmm yes - cats and dogs have a uterus that is like a Y and they usually empty one "horn first and have a slight pause and then they empty the other one. But it would be really rare to have such a long time in between this....
I would not count on it. Usually it is only maybe two hours max between this..

Ally:
in there leopards forum if that theme was, one catowner said that her cat once had 2+2 kittens and last ones was after 24 hours,last year i remember mati kaal said that there may be more cubs after day,too,but then there was not more cubs

caysa:
Yes, it is possible but very rare and the outcome is not always happy.
We can of course hope that Darla would still have a baby inside Laughing

Ally:
we can see that,if in the morning there is one kitten more or not nod

by caysa Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:00 pm

Here is a link to Darla's den cam, using this you can open only the cam player in a new window and adjust the window size to fo fit the player.
This way it is easy to see - without all sorts of extra stuff around.

http://www.interactivezoo.eu/pesa.html

Or click the picture....

by AllyKass Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:48 pm

today zooworkes could take away old goat meat and angelcub,now darla seems happy with her big cub

by caysa Sat Apr 16, 2011 5:13 pm

This is good news!!! Now life can continue normally nod

by Bisky Sat Apr 16, 2011 5:21 pm

Thanks, Ally. I have been watching her for a while this morning to see if the "angelcub" was still in the corner. I missed the housecleaning because I think the goat was still there when I logged on this morning (afternoon at the zoo) -- but maybe it was last night that I still saw it. hummm

by AllyKass Sat Apr 16, 2011 6:12 pm

Bisky wrote:Thanks, Ally. I have been watching her for a while this morning to see if the "angelcub" was still in the corner. I missed the housecleaning because I think the goat was still there when I logged on this morning (afternoon at the zoo) -- but maybe it was last night that I still saw it.

they cleaned the nest 09:05 in our time

by ergee Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:22 pm

Darlal has something in common with some men...
If her head lays with the back on the floor she begins to snore...
like some men are doing sleeping on their back...
Sometimes it is very loud and the little one hears it and moves...

by caysa Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:42 am

ergee wrote:Darlal has something in common with some men...
If her head lays with the back on the floor she begins to snore...
like some men are doing sleeping on their back...
Sometimes it is very loud and the little one hears it and moves...

(I also snore...... even tho I am definately not a man slap

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