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Post by ergee on Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:07 am

Only she knows that this is still necessary to do!
You should not panic and tell what you see and hear...be realistic!
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Post by ergee on Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:32 pm

On LK LSE foorum..some members have heard chee chee, cri cri or peep peep
and other sounds too! Even Henk, who ever that may be.. is
on line..he always is there when something happens...
Maybe a good sign!
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Post by caysa on Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:35 pm

I keep listening every now and then.... but.... I still am not sure that we hear an eaglet. It might be something else. It has taken extremely long for it to hatch. I hope.... I sure still do hope, tho.....
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Post by caysa on Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:00 pm

OK.... I have to leave - going to IKEA ( cheers ) with Anna....
so.. IF there's going to be a chick it is coming while I am away - that's for sure lol!
So start watching.... I am going NOW! See you later!
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Post by ergee on Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:04 pm

caysa wrote:OK.... I have to leave - going to IKEA ( cheers ) with Anna....
so.. IF there's going to be a chick it is coming while I am away - that's for sure lol!
So start watching.... I am going NOW! See you later!

What are you going to buy for her, a car??
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Post by caysa on Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:42 pm

ergee wrote:
caysa wrote:OK.... I have to leave - going to IKEA ( cheers ) with Anna....
so.. IF there's going to be a chick it is coming while I am away - that's for sure lol!
So start watching.... I am going NOW! See you later!

What are you going to buy for her, a car??

Not for HER, for US cheers
A triple wardrobe (plus some more stuff that happend to end up in our bags too lol! )
Anna was kind enough to to come with me in their van, this way it was easy to get the long bits home. 240cm does not fit in my car Rolling Eyes
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Post by caysa on Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:18 pm

This was posted on LK on June 6th

Things happen in Tuuli and Remo's nest ....



The lesser spotted eagle pair that has occupied the black stork nest is hatching its first chick. The first egg was laid on April 27 and the female started brooding at once: the chicks will thus be hatched at different times; the incubation period is 37-41 days. As we all can calculate all the days were used up.


Generally only one chick will fledge, very rarely both. The breeding success of lesser spotted eagles is characterised by a 3-year cycle, and that is mainly governed by changes in the number of their main prey – voles. This year is a „mouse year“.


The Latvian lesser spotted eagles also have a chick hatched – congratulations.


What have I missed?? have you seen any eaglets in the Latvian nest?? hummm hummm hummm
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Post by Ricky on Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:07 pm

I have not but I rarely watch the Latvian cam.
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Post by caysa on Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:19 pm

Ricky wrote:I have not but I rarely watch the Latvian cam.
I have been looking a little these days because the eggs are layed about the same time as the Estonian eggs.... but I swear I saw two eggs today and no chick!
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Post by ergee on Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:49 pm

In the LK foorum you can see the pics and read about it. Saw the eggs
but not yet (9.6.11) a young bird.
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Post by caysa on Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:40 am

ergee wrote:In the LK foorum you can see the pics and read about it. Saw the eggs
but not yet (9.6.11) a young bird.

Not that I go to LK that often but I checked and no one is talking about that odd announcement....
There are only eggs in both nests, at least for now....

In this video it MIGHT be the eggs "talking".... at least the chirping stops when Tuuli lays down on the eggs.
Still, I have a hard time believeing that the eggs will hatch - they might be too dry so that the chick is stuck in there. And if these birds don't know how to help the chicks out they will just die.... Shocked





Another video when Remo brings a mole.... I can't think of anything else, than the the sound of the chicks, that would trigger this gathering of food.... and also here I think I hear the chirping....


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Post by caysa on Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:49 am

Oh boy - I so feel for Tuuli!!
She is so ready to feed the chick - but she can't as there is no little beak to feed. The chick is responding to her. I wish there was a way to help the chick out. It does not have much time left. It is using up its yolk in about 48 hours or less.
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Post by ergee on Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:34 pm


ct.13.20

Bigger spot seems to be a shadow..hole is the same, but voice is much
clearer and louder...
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Post by caysa on Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:33 pm

This pic might just show the hole...
The chick never comes out at the end - it uses its egg tooth to "saw" the cap off by turning around inside the egg.



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Post by caysa on Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:00 pm

Oh my gosh!!! I saw the chick!!!! I think I pressed the wrong buttons to catch a video slap - let's see....



cheers cheers cheers


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Post by Ricky on Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:06 pm

I saw it too cheers cheers
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Post by caysa on Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:15 pm

And poor Tuuli does not know what to do with it lol!



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Post by ergee on Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:21 pm


ct 19.03

Posted already but lost it...here it is ! So Tuuly did everything right!
And we even expected the right egg to open first!
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Post by ergee on Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:26 pm

How will the reaction of Remo be...will he be allowed to see the chicken and to come close to it??
And now we can get nervous about the second egg...and when we are calm again we start being nervous about the question: will both of them stay alive???
And so life goes on....
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Post by AllyKass on Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:33 pm

congratulations to tuuli for very first eaglets!!!
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Post by caysa on Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:14 pm

ergee wrote:How will the reaction of Remo be...will he be allowed to see the chicken and to come close to it??
And now we can get nervous about the second egg...and when we are calm again we start being nervous about the question: will both of them stay alive???
And so life goes on....

I personally think that this egg that nw hatched has to be the second egg. I really have a hard time believing that the first egg would have taken this long. So I think the first egg is "empty" or the embryo has died at some earlier stage.

Remo will probably ve very welcomed - Tuuli looks like she would love someone to share the responsibility with. And Remo will be the main food supplier too, of course.

Will be interesting to see how it goes - I was already afraid that the chick was dead, it just layed there under Tuuli, but thankfully it finally moved and made a little sound. It takes time to recover from that long hatch I guess.
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Post by ergee on Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:01 pm

ergee wrote:How will the reaction of Remo be...will he be allowed to see the chicken and to come close to it??
And now we can get nervous about the second egg...and when we are calm again we start being nervous about the question: will both of them stay alive???
And so life goes on....


It seems to be necessary to explain that I wrote this a couple of hours ago with a smile, a lot of sympathy, pity and a certain dose of irony.
We are often forgetting that we look here at animals...animals that are not
able to think like we do, animals acting on their intuition or instinct!
We will have to accept that nature has its own laws, we do have to accept that, whether we want to or not. Sometimes it is hard to see how animals suffer but that is the way it is , the only thing we can do is stop watching and nothing else.
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Post by caysa on Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:22 pm

I will not stop watching even if things turn out "sad".... We saw how things went with Spot and his sibling. It was not nice from a human point of view but for sure there must be a reason for that behavior too.

But still, most of the time nature knows what to do and when it does not - who is to blame?? Usually it is humans who has caused the problems. The reason that there are not so many LSE's today is that their breeding habitats are spoiled. And it takes a long time to let the woods grow back now that we know that they are needed for this and many more species. The fear that the LSE population gets too small before that happens is real. At least in Latvia they are "saving" some of the eaglets from their older siblings, in order to try and increase the population. Hopefully it works....

But we ARE humans after all and it is natural to put human feelings into what we see on the cams. I don't think there is anything wrong with that! As long as we dont run into the woods and start feeding LSE chicks lol!
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Post by Ricky on Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:42 pm

At this point I want to add that animals do sometimes show humans-like feelings (well, we humans are mammals and that way animals too).
The closer you are connected with animals the more you will notice that animals are "underestimated" in a way...

I think that there´s nothing wrong about feeling with animals as long as we humanize them as little as possible (which is not always easy)...
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Post by caysa on Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:17 am

[quote="Ricky"]At this point I want to add that animals do sometimes show humans-like feelings (well, we humans are mammals and that way animals too).
The closer you are connected with animals the more you will notice that animals are "underestimated" in a way...

I think that there´s nothing wrong about feeling with animals as long as we humanize them as little as possible (which is not always easy)...[/quote]

So right, but as long as we don't hurt the animals all is ok. And as we are humans we love all things small and "baby" so OF COURSE we want everything to be ok with these chicks too sunny

Look at this, and enjoy the new life !!

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Post by caysa on Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:18 am

Tuuli is learning how to feed the little one - all is looking good!!

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Post by AllyKass on Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:46 am

this is very sweet to watch how tuuli feeds her eaglets,she is still littlebit clumsy Cool
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Post by caysa on Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:02 pm

First time mother I am sure she will be ok with it soon, she is trying so hard!
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Post by AllyKass on Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:11 pm

yes, she seems to be good mother nod
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Post by caysa on Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:42 pm

Funny reaction to Remo's arrival.....
She is so protective of the baby that she does not yet believe that Remo will not hurt it. Remo tried to be like whistle I am just here at the edge Smile

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